When I was in the market for a new gas piston AR15 I did about a month of serious research. I quickly learned that the gas piston craze was in full effect and that I had a wide range of options.
I could go with a top-tier mil-spec (or as close to mil-spec as a piston AR can get) piston AR.
I could go with a mid-tier gas piston AR15.
I could go with a gas piston retrofit kit.
One of the hottest gas piston AR15’s on the market right now is the Ruger SR556 & SR556c (compact). It was definitely on my short list and for the record, I love Ruger firearms. My father taught me to shoot with his old Ruger 10/22 back when I was just a little boy back in the early 1980’s.
In addition, as soon as I asked what gas piston AR15 I should buy, I would often get folks telling me to get the SR556 with no real explanation why? If you tell me its the best bang for the buck, I am the kind of guy that needs you to back it up with facts. $1500 is alot of money to just spend it on some anonymous guys fact-less opinion.
I really wanted to love the Ruger SR556 but sadly, as I looked deeper into the SR556 details and features, I began to find certain things that made it a deal breaker for me personally.
In addition, as soon as I asked what gas piston AR15 I should buy, I would often get folks telling me to get the SR556 with no real explanation why? If you tell me its the best bang for the buck, I am the kind of guy that needs you to back it up with facts. $1500 is alot of money to just spend it on some anonymous guys fact-less opinion.
I really wanted to love the Ruger SR556 but sadly, as I looked deeper into the SR556 details and features, I began to find certain things that made it a deal breaker for me personally.
To be fair, just because I did not want to buy a Ruger SR556, that does not mean that it is not a great gun. No gun is perfect for every person so you just have to figure out what your own deal breakers are. Here are some of my personal deal breakers that I found on the Ruger SR556.
1. Gun Store prices, brand new? At the time of this blog posting it’s about $1500 not including tax and background check fees as of mid-2010. Lately, I have seen used ones for a few hundred less. My budget was $1000. With budget cuts at my day job and with another baby on the way, every penny counted for me.
2. The SR556 is somewhat front heavy at 7.94 lbs empty. Add a light and vertical grip and optic and even the die-hard fans admit it is a significantly front heavy gun. The newest model SR556c has been trimmed down slightly to 7.40 lbs but you can’t remove/change the flash hider which is a whole other issue.
3. The hand guards. The proprietary Troy rail system touches the barrel making the quad rail extremely hot. It has been reported that it gets so hot that the Troy rail covers have actually melted and popped off by themselves. Of course you can always wear gloves but I don’t like to wear gloves if I don’t have to. I live in the desert so gloves just aren’t comfortable.
The Troy hang guards are held on with “roll pins”. Roll pins are not as strong as a taper pin or even a straight pin. While roll pins work, it makes disassembly hard and after pounding roll pins out of aluminum more than 2-3 times, you will find that the pins no longer grip and can work their way out overtime.
You cannot go with any other handguard other than the Troy 10” handguards. If you like the thinner profile, lighter weight LaRue free floats handguards or Magpul MOE handgaurds, you are out of luck.
Here is a statement taken directly from the Ruger website FAQ section…
How do I access the transfer rod on my SR-556?
You don't need to. They are made to outlast the barrel. The transfer rod is coated with Nickel-Teflon®, and the return spring is made of stainless steel. Our testing has shown that even without cleaning or lubrication, the transfer rod and spring will outlast the barrel.
You don't need to. They are made to outlast the barrel. The transfer rod is coated with Nickel-Teflon®, and the return spring is made of stainless steel. Our testing has shown that even without cleaning or lubrication, the transfer rod and spring will outlast the barrel.
4. The bolt is built with an unshrouded firing pin aka commercial not mil-spec. Whats the difference between unshrouded & shrouded? It allows for wear on the firing pin, this can also lead to the firing pin retaining pin getting bent and possibly failing. This is why none of the top tier makers build their bolts unshrouded. I don’t know why Ruger chose this older design for their BCG? At this time I do not know of any aftermarket shrouded gas piston BCG that you can swap in place of the Ruger BCG?
5. There is no warranty stated on the Ruger website? Does it have a 1 year warranty? Is it a lifetime warranty? There are AR15 makers that clearly offer a lifetime warranty. I am sure Ruger has a great warranty but they do not post it on their website for some reason? This was not a huge factor for me but still a factor none the less in the grand scheme of things.
6. The new SR556c was designed to address the weight issues that were reported back to Ruger with the original 16” SR556. So in response, they fluted the barrel and reduced the barrel length to a true 16”s by milling the muzzle break/flash hider into the barrel. While this did lighten and shorted the rifle, it created new issues.
Now you can’t remove and change your muzzle break/flash hider. What if you wanted to run a specific suppressor? You cant. I would rather Ruger had just left the standard 16” barrel with a 28x1/2” threaded muzzle since the SR556c is only about 5 ounces lighter than the original.
7. It has a 1:9 twist rifling. 1:9 rifling twist is not an issue to me since I only shoot 62 to 69gr lighter weight ammo inside of 300 yards. Heavier 75gr ammo is suited for longer distance shooting which my self-defense AR15 is not intended to be used for. My AR is a close range rifle. My issue with 1:9 twist on the SR556 is that if I am going to pay $1500+ for an AR15 I’d rather have it come with the mil-spec 1:7 twist.
So as you can see I found a lot of deal breakers for me personally. In my opinion, If I am going to spend $1500+ on a gas piston AR15 then it is going to have to fit me and my criteria a little better. The SR556 has some stiff competition since there are other gas piston AR15’s to choose from like the Stag model 8 and the S&W M&P15PS that are lighter, better balanced, cost less and have less overall negatives on my list.
If you own a Ruger SR556/SR556c and you are happy with it and it runs reliable for you…I am 100% happy for you and support you all the way. This is just my own opinion that some may agree with or may not agree with. I feel it’s always good to educate yourself on the pro’s as well as the con’s of any product. I still think the Ruger SR556 is a SEXY gun and I would love to own one if I could get one for a really good low price.
My blog allows for me to give my honest opinion and this is just my opinion based on the facts that I found. If some of my facts are not accurate then please point them out and I will stand corrected.
I hope this was helpful? Stay Safe.
Thank you for your review. This rifle, the S&W M&P15 PSX, and the Sig 516 Patrol are the three I can"t decide over. This helps narrow the field.
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ReplyDeleteJust ran across this review today. I have the Ruger SR-556 and while I love it, I also agree with your points. I'm a big guy so the weight isn't so much an issue, plus I put a Harris bipod on the front, which really made it a non issue. The 1:9 vs 1:7 doesn't seem to matter much having shot both side by side. The only thing that I HAD to fix was the trigger. It was very stiff. A Timney 3lb skeletonized single stage made this gun just as sweet as I could have ever wanted. Thanks for the review.
ReplyDeleteRuger does not need to put a warranty on there website because it is a no questions asked call them up and they will take care of it lifetime warranty. They will check all parts inside and out and replace any that are out of spec. Hard to beat a rifle that comes with industrial quality hard chrome lined barrel and coated BCG and gas block. Troy Industries BUIS,FREE FLOAT hand guard and adjustable gas block. As far as the unshrouded firing pin not really a problem unless you were going to make it full auto. I like your uneducated comment "or as close to mil-spec as a piston AR can get". wow the H&K 416 met all mill spec requirements might be why it was selected for trials in the SOCOM's weapons trial. Rail covers popping off and melting do to heat XD again only if you are using it in Full Auto. Something that if you could afford you would not be griping about the price tag of the rifle LOL.
ReplyDeleteUneducated? HK didnt get the official thumbs up by the USMC when I wrote this blog so there was not short stroke piston upper that was truly mil-spec ISO9000 at the time. I got a personal email from HK about their contract back in Dec 2011 which was long after I wrote this blog.
DeleteFree float barrel on an SR556? How so? The gas block and barrel "make full contact" with the handguards.
As for hot handguards? Its obvious you have never taken a tactical carbine course have you? Even with semi auto fire, you can over heat a barrel if you are running & gunning with the big boys in a hard core carbine class.
Look I know you have invested your money and ego into your gun and it hurts when someone says anything negative about your investment (and ego). I get it. I used to get the same way. You have to remember that every gun has its strength and weakness. The SR556 is not perfect and it does have issues that some folks consider deal breakers. Maybe not for you but for them and thats just life.
I love Rugers. I just bought a Ruger rifle the other day and I plan to buy a Ruger pistol soon too. Im not a Ruger hater. I just call them like I see them and the SR556 is not on my list of piston guns to buy (personally).
I always say, if it works for you and does what you need it to do... then ignore everything you hear and just enjoy your gun.
I'm new to the rifle area of firearms and I really like the ruger sr556. can someone explain to me the whole troy handguard deal? How big of a deal is this? Is Troy a crappy company? Do they only have 1 handguard and I cant customize anymore after that? Etc etc. Please, more info on the Troy deal would be great. Other than that, great review!
ReplyDeleteTroy is awesome. My point is that you just have limited option if you have a fovorite brand other than troy like VTAC, MAGPUL or Midwest Industries etc etc. Troy is probably the very best in the business right now but some folks simply might have something else in mind and they need to know this before they buy. I say buy a Ruger if you love the product but make sure you know its weakness's along with its strength when you hand over your $1400. Its a great gun and worth the money but the market is full of choices right now. Almost too many lol. Dont let my opinion detract you from a gun you really want. My wants and needs are different than the next guys. What is a negative to me might be a positive for you. Good luck.
DeleteHow is the Spikes Tactical St 15 compared with the rifles you have mentioned already. I know the HK 416 has a proprietary firing system and costs over $2000 but in the $800 to $1300 range the spike falls in at about $1000 locally for me. Also what did you end up getting? My short list is the ST 15 spike, A PSA 16", Bravo mod 2. Although I am really trying to stay as far under $1000 as I can so leaning towards the PSA.
ReplyDeleteI think the PSA and the M&P Sport are probably the best bang for th ebuck as far as low cost and decent quality go. The PSA being the slightly better gun with better features. I dont know enough about the Spikes AR but Spikes is one of the top 3 I'd choose from if I was on a budget. I ended up getting a Colt 6920 M4 carbine. It wasnt cheap but I really like the features and the combat history that money cant buy.
DeleteHave you ever been able to take a Ruger SR-556 through a carbine class? I LOVE how people can review an item without ACTUALLY getting extensive handeling of the weapon system in question. So what say you now that the SR-556 has been out 3+ years now? Carrier Tilt? IF that happens just send the Rifle back to Ruger and have it fixed FREE of charge. Yes you are entitled to your own opinion, but do us a favor and at least try and make it a good one would ya?
ReplyDeleteSince when do I have to take a rifle to a class to know I dont prefer it? A old Texas Ranger took his 30-30 lever action through a tactical class just to prove a point (he out shot many of the young officers with their super whiz bang ninjafied AR15's. Does that mean a 30-30 lever action is the right gun for me? No. You acknowledge that I am entitled to my opinion. At least I give seriously thought out reasons and explanations why I have the opinions I have. To answer your question about the SR556 after 3 years? No I still dont prefer it. Nor do I prefer the Stag M8 I bought. After 3 years of personal piston experience I have realized that I prefer the long stroke system like the AK's system. PWS makes the MK114 that appeals to me. Is it perfect or the best? NO. It has its share of strengths & weaknesses just like everything else. Yes, I hate to break it to you but the SR556 is not perfect and yes it has weaknesses...even after 3 years. My Colt 6920 has strengths & weaknesses but you dont see me getting emotionally upset when someone talks negative about D.I.'s or that Colts are just over priced etc etc. I buy what works for me and I advocate folks to do the same. If the SR556 works flawless for you and you see no flaws at all and you think its perfect...good for you. I think you should be more upset at the person who says they hate the SR556 and doesnt back it up with reasons? Dont take offense. We are just 2 guys talking guns. Thats the way I look at it anyway. Stay safe.
DeleteI am currently looking around for a Piston AR and the SR556 was one of the ones I am looking at. Like you my concerns were the same, but for the price I just don't see another option unless you plan to spend another thousand dollars and go with a LWRC or something more expensive.
ReplyDeletewell I just bought the 556 and I love it. I was going to get the lwrc , but could not justify the 2000 price tag for a range gun..
ReplyDeleteYou can find the stripped down Ruger SR 556E (E for essential) at $1000, I've seen one for $980! But there are no sights with it but a set of Troy front and rear sights can be had for $170 at Amazon
ReplyDeleteJust bought my SR556E recently for $899. I've had no issues with barrel/handguard heat. It weighs just slightly over 7 lbs. Accuracy is superb but I did have to add a Giessele SSA-E trigger as the stock trigger was very stiff. The handguard is very comfortable and can be modified with rails where ever you want them. The adjustable gas system is just icing on the cake to taylor the rifle to your particular loads.
ReplyDeleteWOW.... I am LITERALLY on my way out the door to buy a USED SR 556 and wanted to check every thing I could on the I-Net prior to making the buy. I had NO idea that THE SR 556 Was so proprietary. I want to thank you for offering an Honest and direct onion about the weapon Platform. My initial firection was to buy a NIB Bushmaster 90289 yr left over that is available for 700.00 to me at a savings of 400 over retail. Your opinion saved me 800 and a few possible headaches. thanks you very much. Jeff @ the NATOBALL
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